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I didn't post on it earlier but I thought it would be the best time now. For those of you who aren't really involved in the goings on of the Malayalee Pentecostal community in the United States, I thought I'd fill you in. Shibu Mathai and his wife Jamie moved to Oregon about two months ago. They moved to Lebanon of all places and were already getting involved in ministries there. The couple came to our church in July, and immediately made an impact. Although I don't remember what Shibu spoke about that day at our church, I remember being blessed by it. The young couple came to our house later, and I had a great conversation with Jamie and Shibu. I had an inkling in my heart that they would be a great blessing to the Portland area. I told him about the large mission field here, and he started talking about looking for a job here. Last weekend, in Oklahoma, he jumped into a lake at a church picnic to save his 13 year old niece from drowning. I'm not sure how, but Shibu was able to rescue his niece but was caught by the water himself. The news story can be found here. The beach pictures that you saw on this website had no pictures of us at the beach because we found out about the news after we were there for about ten minutes on the sand- we lost any joy in being there and just drove home.
The latest on this is that they are praying for Shibu. There were many prophecies made over Shibu which detailed the work he was going to do for God in the future. Some of you will be shocked at this, the truth is- they are praying for Shibu to rise up from the dead. This is a sincere prayer to a God who has promised us that he will give us our good desires. As some of you know, I am the biggest skeptic but then I saw this video online-- and yes it is him. I gave a call to the people who run that ministry and they confirmed that their church is praying, along with his family and friends, for Shibu to rise up from the dead. They told me that it was just one of many prophecies made over Shibu before he died.
My take: God can do anything. Absolutely anything. My dad was healed completely from life-endangering injuries from a car accident in the Libyan desert. Doctors told him he could not walk again- my father could destroy you at a game of kabaddi today. Yet, that was God's will for him. I don't know God's will for Shibu, only He does. Yet I am willing to support this family and pray for God to do a miracle here. It sounds crazy, but our God can do whatever the heck he wants. People up and down North America are already praying for him. If you believe, join them today.
UPDATE: Please understand, there are more sections to this site. You are looking at the first post on this topic. Although DayCruz knows the family, he is in no way connected to what is going on. Neither is Dippu.com. I have made a post about the comments on this post at the very top of this website. You can go to it by clicking here. The body will be buried sometime in the next week. It has been taken out of the church. Here is the latest post on the whole issue.
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Response: Where is your faith?If you have not heard about Shibu Mathai by now, or are just not in tune with the Malayalee Pentecostal world, let me fill you in. Saturday, August 12th, 2005 at a church picnic in Oklahoma, 26-year-old Shibu jumped into the Arcadia Lake to help his 1...
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Stop the judging and criticism. What I worry is that if God's will is not to raise Shibu, many youth will turn away from the faith. Remember Who should recieve the glory, the power, and the honor: God only not any man or woman. Christ raised Lazarus, but He commanded the people to move the stone from the tomb, and He commanded the people to unbind him. Let us move forwrd with faith, but don't be swept away in this excitment. Let only God's will be done.
May God, honor the faith of those who pray for the miracle.
God can do this miracle even at the last minute.
May God bless Shibu's family !!
with pryaers.
S George
If you are convicted that this of God, ..that it is His will, ..keep praying, ..keep doing what you're doing.....don't be diverted into the wrong direction by those who speak against it. ..keep focused
your brother :)
Isa 55:9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
Isa 55:10 For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater:
Isa 55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
If it is in the sovereign will of God that Shibu will rise, ...get ready people...get ready for something special to happen :)
Sincerely,
Robert Blaine Burns
Let the man be in God's presence, stop being so selfish. As someone mentioned, these prophets don't want to look phony.
Focus on only Christ, and this "reconciling of Ishmael" is a bunch of garbage! I grew up in missionary home, at young age I came to Christ, now God is still my Guide and my Hope at my older years. I can go at any time. To the Malayalee Community- Come Back to Christ!!
This is wrong theology. No where in New Testament do we read of people not burying their dead for God to do a miracle.
1 John 4:1 admonishes “Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.”
(Burns & Issac) understand the human side of this. Every time the father and mother see the corpse of their only son can you imagine the suffering in their heart. You don't understand, you say they are rejoicing and celebrating, thats only on the outside. Everyday that goes by they are burning inside, IT'S THEIR ONLY SON! THE CHILD THEY RAISED AND SCHOOLED AND NUTURED,Easy for you to say that theyre happy.
Prophets may say this and that, test everything and never ever take anything at face value. Thats the type of world we live in. Be as innocent as doves, but as cunning as snakes. I personally know families that have lost children that had many prophecies not yet fulfilled. That does not mean all prophets are wrong, it simply means God will take you home when he sees your work done. Some of you might then say that God's work for Shibu was not done. Who are you to question God for that? The dead can still be raised, but the manner this is being carried out is not Biblcal as John said and this Kimberly lady is speaking blasphemy. Every word she said all those titles belong to Christ and Him only! As a Pentacostal Malayalee I warn any of you from following such a destructive demonic spirit
People, People, People
If you have a problem with the Mathais, don't use your energy to condemn them. Use your energy to pray for them and other alike so that the Lords will be done. Would you condemn me when I speak of an earthquake or death or illness before it happens. I believe 100 percent in the Lord and because of my strong faith he speaks to me and through these things that happen I am used by the Lord to bring people before him in his name. People, thank the Lord that we can come together in his name. May the Lord bless and work in everyone.
Sincerely,
Robert Blaine Burns
I am not agreeing with the prophetess in any way, I have not even discussed this prophecy. I know that the Mathais truly believe in the Lord and the gift that they have is very powerful. They listen to the Lord. Didn't Jesus say let the dead bury the dead
and follow him. Yes we live in a modern society and it is only right in this society to bury Shibu. But let the Lord tell them when not modern society.
(Puthupullil) are you saying that the Mathais are filled with demonic spirits, that may not be the best statement to say. Have you actually sat down with the Family and discussed their beliefs. I have and they spoke over me in Gods name and it all came true because it was the Lord that spoke through them. I then in turn spoke over them a year later. Come on people stop the condemning, it is not right. It is only the Lord who has the right to condemn and that time will come at the judgement.
Sincerely,
Robert Blaine Burns
Robert Burns, I really sorry if I insulted or upset you in any way. I just want some good to come out of this. I don't want the youth to turn away from Christ if nothing happens.
My sincere apologies